In the interest of time I selected a few important issues to dispute, highlighted them in the transcript and will pick them out of sequence with just enough context to convey the full meaning of the quotes. Superscripts in the quotes are linked to my commentary which follows.
Hamed: Hi. There are 3.3 million Muslims in the United States and I'm one of them. You’ve mentioned working with Muslim nations. But with Islamophobia3 on the rise, how will you help people like me deal with the consequences4 of being labelled as a threat to the country after the election is over?
Raddatz: Mr. Trump, you’re first.
Trump: You are right about Islamophobia and that's a shame.56, but whether we like it or not, there is a problem. And we have to be sure that Muslims come in and report789. As the example in San Bernardino. Many people saw the bombs all over the apartment of the two people that killed 14 and wounded many, many people. Horribly wounded, they will never be the same. Muslims have to report the problems when they see them. And, you know, there is always a reason for everything. If they don't do that, it's a very difficult situation for our country. Because you look at Orlando and you look at San Bernardino and you look at the World Trade Center. Go outside and you look at Paris, look at that horrible thing. These are radical10 Islamic terrorists and she won't even mention the word and nor will President Obama. He won't use the term radical Islamic terrorist, no. To solve a problem you have to be able to state what the problem is or at least, say the name. She won't say the name and President Obama won't say the name. But the name is there. It's radical Islamic terror11. And before you solve it, you have to say the name.
Clinton: Thank you for asking your question and I’ve heard this question from a lot of Muslim Americans across our country. Because unfortunately there has been a lot of very divise, dark things said about Muslims12. And even someone like Captain Khan, the young man who sacrificed himself defending our country in the United States Army has been subject to attack by Donald13. I want to say just a couple of things. First: We’ve had Muslims in America since George Washington. And we’ve had many successful Muslims. We just lost a particularly well-known one with Muhammad Ali. My vision of America is an America where everyone has a place, if you are willing to work hard, do your part and you contribute to the community. That's what America is. That's what we want America to be for our children and our grandchildren. It's also very short-sighted and even dangerous to be engaging in the kind of demagogic rhetoric that Donald has about Muslims14. We need American Muslims to be part of our eyes and ears on our front lawns15. I’ve worked with a lot of Muslim groups around America. I’ve met with a lot of them and I’ve heard how important it is for them to feel that they are wanted and included and part of our country. Part of our homeland security. And that's what I want to see. It's also important, I intend to defeat ISIS16,to17 with the Americans and this is a gift to ISIS and the terrorists. Violent jihadist terrorists. We are not at war with Islam18and it is a mistake, and it plays into the hands of the terrorists, to act as though we are. So I want a country where citizens like you and your family are just as welcome as anyone else.
Trump: First of all, Captain Khan is an American hero and if I were president at that time he would be alive today because, unlike her who voted for the war without knowing what she was doing, I would not have had our people in Iraq. Iraq was a disaster. So he would have been alive today. The Muslim ban is something that in some form has morphed into an extreme vetting from certain areas of the world. Hillary Clinton wants to allow --
Raddatz: Why did it morph into that. No answer the question. Would you please explain whether or not the Muslim ban still stands?
Trump: It is called extreme vetting. We are going to areas like Syria where they are coming in by the tens of thousands because of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton wants wants to allow a 550% increase over Obama. People are coming into our country like we have no idea who they are, where they are from, what their feelings about our country is and she wants 550% more. This is going to be the great Trojan horse of all time. We have enough problems in this country. I believe in building safe zone20, I believe in having other people pay for them, as an example the [Arabian] Gulf states who are not carrying their weight but they have nothing but money and take care of people. But I don't want to have, with all the problems this country has and all of the problems you see going on, hundreds of thousands of people come in from Syria where we know nothing about them. We know nothing about their values and we know nothing about their love for our country21.
Raddatz: Secretary Clinton, let me ask you about that. You have asked for an increase from 10 to 65,000 Syrian refugees. We know you want tougher vetting. That's not a perfect system. So why take the risk of having those refugees come into the country?
Clinton: First of all, I will not let anyone into our country that I think poses a risk to us22. But there are a lot of refugees, women and children, think of that picture we all saw of that 4-year-old boy with the blood on his forehead because he’d been bombed by the Russian and Syrian air forces. There are children suffering in this catastrophic war, largely, I believe because of Russian aggression23. And we need to do our part. We, by no means, are carrying anywhere near the load that Europe and others are. But we will have vetting that is as tough as it needs to be from our professionals, our intelligence experts and others. But it is important for us as a policy not to say, as Donald has said, we’re going to ban people based on a religion. How do you that24? We are a country founded on religious freedom and liberty. How do we do what he has advocated without causing great distress within our own country25? Are we going to have religious tests when people fly into our country and how do we expect to be able to implement those?26 So I thought that what he said was extremely unwise and even dangerous and indeed you can look at the propaganda on a lot of the terrorist sites and what Donald Trump says about Muslims is used to recruit fighters. Because they want to create a war between us. And the final thing I say, this is the 10th or 12th time he denied being for the war in Iraq. We have it on tape, the entire press corps has looked at it, it’s been debunked but it never stops him from saying whatever he wants to say. Go to Hillaryclinton.com.
Clinton: Right. As I recall, that was something I said about Abraham Lincoln27 after having seen the wonderful Steven Spielberg movie called Lincoln. It was a master class watching president Lincoln get the congress to approve the 13th amendment. It was principled and it was strategic and I was making the point that it is hard, sometimes, to get the congress to do what you want to do. And you have to keep working at it and yes, president Lincoln was trying to convince some people, he used some arguments, convincing other people, he used other arguments. That was a great, I thought, a great display of presidential leadership. But, you know, let's talk about what's really going on here, Martha because our intelligence community just came out and said in the last few days that the Kremlin, meaning Putin and the Russian government, are directing the attacks, the hacking on American accounts to influence our election. And WikiLeaks is part of that as are other sites where the Russians hack information, we don't even know if it's accurate information and then they put it out. We have never in the history of our country been in a situation where an adversary, a foreign power, is working so hard to influence the outcome of the election28, and believe, they’re not doing it to get me elected. They are doing it to try to influence the election for Donald Trump. Now, maybe because he praised Putin, maybe because he says he agrees with a lot of what Putin wants to do, maybe because he wants to do business in Moscow. I don’t know the reasons, but we deserve answers, and should demand that Donald release all of his tax returns so that people can see what are the entanglements and the financial relationships--
Raddatz: We’re going to move on to Syria. Both of you have mentioned that.
Trump: But she said a lot of things that were false. I think we should --29
Raddatz: Mr. Trump, we will go on. Mr. Trump, we are going to move on. The heart breaking video of a 5-year-old Syrian boy named Omran sitting in an ambulance after being pulled from the rubble after an airstrike in Aleppo focused the world's attention on the horrors of the war in Syria, with 136 million views on Facebook alone. But there are much worse images coming out of Aleppo every day now where in the past few weeks alone 400 have been killed, at least 100 of them children. Just days ago, the State Department called for a war crimes investigation of the Syrian regime of Bashar al-Assad and of its ally, Russia, for their bombardment of Aleppo. So this next question comes from social media, through Facebook. Diane from Pennsylvania asks If you were president, what would you do about Syria and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo? Isn’t is a lot like wasn't it like the Holocaust when the U.S. waited too long before30
Clinton: The situation in Syria is catastrophic and everyday that goes by, we see the results of the regime, by Assad in partnership with the Iranians on the ground and the Russians in the air, bombarding places in particular aleppo, where there are hundreds of thousands of people, probably about 250,000 people still left. And there is a determined effort by the Russian Air Force to destroy Aleppo in order to eliminate the last of the Syrian rebels who are really holding out against the Assad regime. Russia hasn't paid any attention to ISIS. They are interested in keeping Assad in power.313233. We need some leverage with the Russians because they are not going to come to the negotiating table for a diplomatic resolution unless there is leverage over them. And we have to work more closely with our partners and allies on the ground. But I want to emphasize that what is at stake here is the ambitions and aggressiveness of Russia. Russia has decided it is all in in Syria, and they’ve also decided who they want to see become President of the United States too and it's not me. I stood up to Russia; I’ve taken on Putin and others and I would do that as president. I think wherever we can cooperate with Russia, that's fine and I did, as Secretary of State, that's how we got a treaty reducing nuclear weapons, it’s how we got the sanctions on Iran that put a lid on the nuclear weapons program without firing a single shot. So I would go with more leverage than we have now. But I support the efforts to investigate for crimes, war crimes, committed by the Syrians and the Russians and try to hold them accountable.
Raddatz: Thank you Secretary Clinton. Mr. Trump.
Trump: First of all, she was there as Secretary of State with the so-called line in the sand.
Clinton: No I wasn't, I was gone. I hate to interrupt you. At some point we need to get the facts out.
Trump: You were still in contact with the White House. And perhaps sadly, Obama probably still listened to you. I don't think he would listen to you very much anymore. Obama draws the line in the sand. It was laughed at all over the world what happened. Now, with that being said, she talks tough against Russia, but our nuclear program has fallen way behind and they have gone wild with their nuclear program. Not good. Our government shouldn’t have allowed that to happen. Russia is new in terms of nuclear and we are old and tired and exhausted in terms of nuclear. A very bad thing.
Now, she talks tough. She talks really tough against Putin and against Assad. She talks in favor of the rebels. She doesn't even know who the rebels are34. You know, every time we take rebels whether it's in Iraq or anywhere else, we’re arming people. And you know what happens? They end up being worse than the people. Look at what she did in Libya with Qaddafi. Qaddafi is out. It's a mess. And by the way, ISIS has a good chunk of their oil. I'm sure you’ve probably have heard that. It was a disaster. The fact is almost everything she has done has been a mistake and it’s been a disaster. But if you look at Russia, just take a look at Russia and look at what they did this week, and I agree she wasn't there, but possibly she’s consulted.
We sign a peace treaty and everyone’s all excited, but what Russia did with Assad and by the way with Iran who you made very powerful with the dumbest deal perhaps I have seen in the history of making, with the $150 billion and with the $1.7 billion in cash, which is enough cash to fill up this room, but look at that deal. Iran and Russia are against us. So she wants to fight. She wants to fight for rebels. There’s one problem. You don’t even know who the rebels are. So what’s the purpose?35
Raddatz: Mr. Trump, your two minutes is up.
Trump: I don't like Assad at all, but Assad is killing ISIS. Russia is killing ISIS and Iran is killing ISIS and they have lined up because of weak foreign policy.
Raddatz: Mr. Trump, let me repeat the question. If you were president, what would you do about Syria36and the humanitarian crisis in Aleppo, and I want to remind you what your running mate said. He said provocations by Russia need to be met with American strength and that if Russia continues to be involved in airstrikes along with the Syrian government forces of Assad, the United States of America should be prepared to use military force to strike the military targets of the Assad regime.
Trump: Okay. He and I haven't spoken, and I disagree.
Raddatz: You disagree with your running mate?
Trump: I disagree. Right now, Syria is fighting ISIS. We have people that want to fight both at the same time. But Syria is no longer Syria. Syria is Russia and it’s Iran who she made strong and Kerry and Obama made into a powerful nation and a rich nation, very quickly, very, very quickly. I believe we have to get ISIS. We have to worry about ISIS before we can get too much more involved. She had a chance to do something with Syria, they had a chance, and that was the line.
Raddatz: What are do you think will happen if Aleppo falls?
Trump: Aleppo is a disaster, humanitarian wise.
Raddatz: What will happen if it falls?
Trump: I think that it basically has fallen, okay? It basically has fallen. Let me tell you something: you take a look at Mosul. The biggest problem I have with the stupidity of our foreign policy. We have Mosul, they think a lot of the ISIS leaders are in Mosul. So we have announcements out of Washington and coming out Iraq. We will be attacking Mosul in three weeks or four weeks. So all of these bad leaders from ISIS are leaving Mosul. Why can't they do it quietly? We can’t they do the attack and make it a sneak attack and after the attack is made inform the American public that we have knocked out the leaders; we’ve have a tremendous success. People leave. Why do they have to say we are going to be attacking Mosul within the next four to six weeks, which is what they’re saying. How stupid is our country?37
Raddatz: There are sometimes reasons the military does that. Psychological warfare.
Trump: I can't think of any.
Raddatz: It might be to get civilians out.
Trump: I can't think of any. I have 200 generals and admirals who endorsed me. I have 21 congressional Medal of Honor recipients who endorse me. We talk about it all the time. They understand. Why can't they do something secretively where they go in and knock out the leadership. Why would these people stay there? I’ve been reading there for weeks about Mosul...
Raddatz: Tell me what your strategy is it.
Trump: That it’s the harbor between Raqqa and Mosul, this is why where they think the ISIS leaders are. Why would they be staying...they are not staying there anymore. They are gone. Because everybody is talking about how Iraq which is us with our leadership goes into fight Mosul. With the 200 admirals and generals, they can't believe it. General George Patton and General Douglas MacArthur are spinning in their grave at the stupidity of what we are doing in the Middle East.
Raddatz: I’m going to go to Secretary Clinton, you want Assad to go, you advocated arming rebels, but it looks like that may be too late for Aleppo. You talk about diplomatic efforts, those that failed, ceasefires have failed. Would you introduce the threat of U.S. military force beyond a no-fly zone against the Assad regime to back up diplomacy?
Clinton: I would not use American ground forces in Syria. I think that would be a very serious mistake. I don't think American troops should be holding territory38
Raddatz: What would you do different than than President Obama is doing?
Clinton: Martha, I hope that by the time I am president that we will have pushed ISIS out of Iraq. I do think that there is a good chance that we can take Mosul. And you know, Donald said he knows more about ISIS than the generals. No, he doesn't. There are a lot of very important planning going on and some of it is to signal to the Sunnis in the are,a as well as Kurdish Peshmerga fighters that we all need to be in this. And that takes a lot of planning and preparation. I would go after Baghdadi . I would specifically target Baghdadi. Because I think our targeting of Al Qaeda leaders, and I was involved in a lot of those operations, highly classified ones, made a difference. I think that could help. I would consider arming the Kurds. The kurds have been our best partners in Syria, as well as Iraq. And I know there’s a lot of concern about that in some circles, but they should have the equipment they need so that Kurdish and Arab fighters on the ground are the principal way we take Raqqa after pushing ISIS out of Iraq.
Trump: You know that’s funny. She went over a minute over and you don't stop her. When I go one second over --
Raddatz: You had many answers.
Trump: It's very interesting
LibTurd tactic for shutting down debate; it must be rejected.
No apology is due from Trump, as he explained, any apology is due from Clinton, whose campaign created the "birther" movement.
he was born in Kenya. Snopes has published the image of the blurb so that you can see it and evaluate it for yourself. Where did that birth place claim originate if not with Obama? If it is untrue, why would he allow it to be published? The image that follows was clipped from this pdf file on the White House Web site. It is presented as the President's "long form" "Certificate of Live birth". If it is authentic, why does it not include the embossed seal of the Health Department which is found on genuine birth certificates issued by Hawaii? I resampled this 100% and sharpened it with Irfanview. I experimented with color corrections, but the embossed seal simply is not present.
This is the purported short form embossed seal on it. This image has been resampled and sharpened.
I will cast terror", "Allah cast terror", "to strike terror", "to terrify thereby", "You are more of a terror" and "I have been made victorious with terror": what the Hell part of that do you not comprehend? And Allah awards Brownie Points for steps taken to injure or enrage us.
. The believers will eventually do it. Get your head out of the sand and demand that the government impose consequences on potential Muslim terrorists. No Muslims: no terrorism.
here: read it and get a clue.
3:151, 8:12,39,57,60,65,67, 9:5,29,38, 39,111,120,123, 33:26,27, 47:4,49:15, 59:2,13,61:10-13; Sahih Bukhari 1.7.3314.52.220.
There is no radical or extreme Islam. There is no moderate or anodyne Islam. It's Islam, Stupid!!! Abandon PC: quit prefixing adjectives to Islam & Muslims.
damnable details!!! Get a clue!
Muslim problem", "they hate us" and called for a ban on admission of Muslims. He called for surveillance of Muslim neighborhoods and mosques. Dr. Carson said that we should not elect a Muslim President. Those statements are common sense: light, not darkness and dividing the predators from their prey is common sense.
went astray"; we are "the worst of living creatures". Allah, the Angels and men curse us; which men would that be? Muslims?!
Obamination shut down an investigation that could have prevented the San Bernardino Massacre. Who can get a clue? Certainly not the Bloody Witch of Benghazi!
Islam is incompatible with representative self government: only Allah has the right to be worshiped. So much for freedom of religion! Only
Only Allah and his Messenger have the rule to decide and govern; its Allah's law, not man made law arrived at by debate and consensus.
Only Muslims are permitted to have authority. Infidels are not permitted to have authority even over other infidels. You can not even testify in an Islamic court!
I disrespectfully direct deniers, doubters & dissenters to the relevant provisions of "The Reliance Of The Traveller". It has been scrubbed from the web so I can't link to it so I will quote it.[Emphasis added for clarity.]
Legal testimony is only acceptable from a witness who:
(a) is free;
(b) is fully legally responsible (mukallaf, def: c8.1) (O: as testimony is not accepted from a child or insane person, even when the child's testimony regards injuries among children that occurred at play);
(c) is able to speak;
(d) it mentally awake;
(e) is religious (O: meaning upright (o24.4) (A: and Muslim), for Allah Most High says,
"Let those of rectitude among you testify" (Koran 65:2),
and unbelief is the vilest form of corruption, as goes without saying);
conditions for a person to have custody of a child
(a) uprightness (def: o24.4) (O: a corrupt
person may not be a guardian, because child care is a position of
authority, and the corrupt are unqualified for it. Mawardi and Ruyani
hold that outward uprightness (def: m3.3(f) ) is sufficient unless
there is open wrongdoing. If the corruptness of a child's mother
consists of her not performing the prayer (salat), she has no right to
custody of the child, who might grow up to be like her, ending up in
the same vile condition of not praying, for keeping another's company
has its effects); (b) sanity (O: since a mother uninterruptedly
insane has no right to custody, though if her insanity is slight, such
as a single day per year, her right to custody is not vitiated by it);
(c) and if
the child is Muslim, it is a necessary condition that the person with
custody be a Muslim
(O: because it is a position of authority, and a
non-Muslim has no right to authority and hence no right to raise a
Muslim. If a non-Muslim were given charge of the custody and upbringing
of the child, the child might acquire the character traits of unbelief
(kufr) ). O25.3: The
Qualifications of a Caliph (Nawawi:) among the
qualifications of the caliph are that
he be: (a) Muslim
(H: so that he may see to the best interests of Islam and the Muslims
being invalid to appoint a non-Muslims (K: it being invalid to appoint
a non-Muslim (kafir) to authority, even to rule non-Muslim.)
(a) uprightness (def: o24.4) (O: a corrupt person may not be a guardian, because child care is a position of authority, and the corrupt are unqualified for it. Mawardi and Ruyani hold that outward uprightness (def: m3.3(f) ) is sufficient unless there is open wrongdoing. If the corruptness of a child's mother consists of her not performing the prayer (salat), she has no right to custody of the child, who might grow up to be like her, ending up in the same vile condition of not praying, for keeping another's company has its effects);
(b) sanity (O: since a mother uninterruptedly insane has no right to custody, though if her insanity is slight, such as a single day per year, her right to custody is not vitiated by it);
(c) and if the child is Muslim, it is a necessary condition that the person with custody be a Muslim
(O: because it is a position of authority, and a non-Muslim has no right to authority and hence no right to raise a Muslim. If a non-Muslim were given charge of the custody and upbringing of the child, the child might acquire the character traits of unbelief (kufr) ).
O25.3: The Qualifications of a Caliph
(Nawawi:) among the qualifications of the caliph are that he be:
(a) Muslim (H: so that he may see to the best interests of Islam and the Muslims (K: it being invalid to appoint a non-Muslims (K: it being invalid to appoint a non-Muslim (kafir) to authority, even to rule non-Muslim.)
We need to defeat Muslims and that requires destroying their faith! [Page 60.] War against Muslims must be waged on the kinetic and ideological planes.
Surah An-Naba'. When a Muslim meets Allah, his sins will be weighed against his righteous good deeds. The swing of the balance determines his destiny. Only participation in Jihad guarantees forgiveness! Jihad is the Muslim's get out of Hell Free Card!
Muslims are waging war against them and we need to retaliate. We need to wipe them off the face of the earth and we need to get their fifth column out of Dar al-Harb.
There is nothing illegal, immoral or unconstitutional about excluding persons who adhere to a violent or subversiveAquida,[Tirmidhi] it lists what Muslims must believe to be in good standing with Allah.
Click each of those pages to enlarge them, read them and get a clue: Islam is violent!!! Muslims are at war against us and there is no place for them here!!!
Islam wishes to destroy all states and governments anywhere on the face of the earth which are opposed to
the ideology and programme of Islam regardless of the country or the Nation which rules it. The
purpose of Islam is to set up a state on the basis of its own ideology and programme, regardless of which nation assumes the role of the standard-bearer of Islam or the rule of which nation is undermined in the process of the establishment of an ideological Islamic State.t—not because the sovereignty over the earth should be wrested from one nation or several nations and vested in one particu lar nation, but because the entire mankind should benefit from the ideology and welfare programme or what would be truer to say from ‘Islam’ which is the programme of well-being for all humanity. Towards this end, Islam wishes to press into service all forces which can bring about a revolution and a composite term for the use of all these forces is ‘Jihad’. To change the outlook of the people and initiate a mental revolution among them through speech or writing is a form of ‘Jihad’. To alter the old tyrannical social system and establish a new just order of life by the power of sword is also ‘Jihad’ and to expend goods and exert physically for this cause is ‘Jihad’ too.
Ibn Khaldun: Muquaddiman pg. 308
In the Muslim community, the holy war is a religious duty, because of the
universalism of the (Muslim) mission and (the obligation to) convert everybody to
Islam either by persuasion or by force. Therefore, caliphate and royal authority are
united in (Islam), so that the person in charge can devote the available strength to
both of them 408 at the same time.
The Arab states do not want those 'refugees' 'cuz they know that those 'refugees' are mainly rebels & rebel sympathizers who would soon undermine their own regimes.
With the Islamic State and al-Qaeda inciting Muslims to shoot, stab, run over and poison us, their presence here can not be tolerated. We absolutely must expel them and keep them out. We must not bring any more Muslims!
magnificent nineteen", would have caused them well deserved distress and saved 3000 innocent lives. If you object to that, go to Hell and be damned!
Test visa applicants by greeting them with "As-Salam-u-Alaikum". If they respond to it, exclude them. Tear a page out of a Koran, toss it on the floor, stomp it and tear it up into the circular file. If the applicant shows signs of offense, exclude him.
Raddatz wasted valuable time setting up her straw man premise. No mention of the Christians slaughtered or driven from their homes. No mention of the rape victims enslaved. She is only concerned about Muslim suffering as if it is somehow the responsibility of our President to solve all the world's problems.
Children are being hurt 'cuz combatants do not separate themselves from the populations they hold captive; they use the civilians as human shields. Dictatorial regimes use draconian force to kill the rebels, causing collateral damage.
What did President Reagan do to stop the shelling of Hama that killed 10,000 Ikhwan supporters? What could he do, kill them himself? He sent the Marines to save Arafat's Bacon, how did that turn out? Its a shame that LibTards can't learn from history.
8.1-5. 9.11149.15. Al-Qaeda & Islamic State affiliates. Our enemies trained and armed by Obamination on her watch. You should be condemning & cursing them and calling for their extinction.